over its timidity it was time for the discussion to be over.

One person got in a last minute question: Who were theso ministers and what church had they come from? They spoke differently from any other ministers she'd over seen or heard. Father Martin gave hor a card which read: "Rt. Rov. Thomas Martin, Abbot; Saint George Chapel and Monastery, The Church of Divino Love, Eastern Orthodox: 1580 Bledsoe Lane, Las Vegas, Nevada." She asked if that were some offshoot of the Catholic Church. Father Martin said that it was not. Father Newman said the church had be on in existence since 64 A.D. and that it stemmed from the teachings of St. Thomas, the doubting apostle. It thon became olear what had caused a certain lack of communication between the moderators and the group They were not connected with any of the commonly known Christian churches which have managed to infect most Christian homosexuals with a deep guilt as to their basic natures, if not most Christian heterosexual peoplo.as well.

There is a certain bafflement in speaking to, or in front of, what seem to be orthodox ministers, when these same ministers seem to feel there is no reason whatever a homosexual should feel guilty about his nature. Any orthodox minister, enlightened or otherwise, would know the emotional bias in most Christian churches and society it self which surrounds the subJoct of homosexuality or "perversion." If the minister had been working in a different context, howover, and had no deep prejudices drilled into him, it is reasonable why he should think that logic alone should solve any problems in the matter.

SHOULD MEN AND WOMEN HOMOSEXUALS ASSOCIATE? Hrs. V. Vostwald, Moderator

Tore were ele ven women and seven men present at the discussion. Mrs. Vostwald posed the question, "Why do poople associate?" "Mutual interest; business; religion; man is a social animal, and sex" wore the

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